Dialogues: The David Zwirner Podcast

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What Does Sigmar Polke Still Have to Teach Us?

What Does Sigmar Polke Still Have to Teach Us?

September 30, 2026

Curator Mark Godfrey and painter Emma McIntyre discuss the importance of Sigmar Polke—skeptic, trickster, and visionary—on the occasion of Sigmar Polke: The Knowledge of Colours, a solo exhibition at the De Pont Museum in Tilburg, Netherlands, part of Sigmar Polke: Athanor NOW, a project by the Anna Polke Foundation.

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A Curator’s Guide to the Venice Biennale | Ebony L. Haynes with Adrienne Edwards
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A Curator’s Guide to the Venice Biennale | Ebony L. Haynes with Adrienne Edwards

July 15, 2026

Curator Adrienne Edwards joins guest host Ebony L. Haynes to share their tips, tricks, and must-see shows from the 2026 Venice Biennale, the sixty-first iteration of the world’s largest and longest-running art biennale.

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Michael Armitage
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Season 10, Episode 9

Michael Armitage

April 29, 2026

An interview with Michael Armitage about his unique use of material and color, and his singular approach to narrative on the occasion of his major retrospective at the Palazzo Grassi in Venice. Titled The Promise of Change, the show is presented concurrently with the 61st International Art Exhibition of the Venice Biennale and on view through January 10, 2027.

 

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Anni Albers: A Life, Live with Nicholas Fox Weber
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Bonus Episode

Anni Albers: A Life, Live with Nicholas Fox Weber

May 13, 2026

Lucas Zwirner returns to the mic for an interview with Nicholas Fox Weber, the director of the Josef & Anni Albers Foundation, to celebrate Weber’s new biography of Anni Albers, titled Anni Albers: A Life.

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Marcel Duchamp: An Artist, a Rumor, a Series of Questions Without Answers | With Rachel Harrison and Alex Kitnick
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Season 10, Episode 8

Marcel Duchamp: An Artist, a Rumor, a Series of Questions Without Answers | With Rachel Harrison and Alex Kitnick

April 22, 2026

A conversation with artist Rachel Harrison and art historian Alex Kitnick on the occasion of a once-in-a-generation retrospective of Marcel Duchamp at the Museum of Modern Art in New York.

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The Story of Walter Benjamin’s Final Days and His Cherished Paul Klee Drawing
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Season 10, Episode 7

The Story of Walter Benjamin’s Final Days and His Cherished Paul Klee Drawing

March 18, 2026

Art historian Lisa Saltzman discusses Walter Benjamin’s final days in Paris before his suicide in 1940 and the network of intellectuals who saved his most prized possessions from World War II, including a cherished Paul Klee drawing.

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The Difficulty of Critiquing Black Artists | With Rachel Hunter Himes
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Season 10, Episode 6

The Difficulty of Critiquing Black Artists | With Rachel Hunter Himes

March 11, 2026

Helen Molesworth speaks to Rachel Hunter Himes, author of the essay “Black Block” in Triple Canopy, about the long history of black artists underserved by white critics, museums’ moral and political responsibility to the public, and more.

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Todd Haynes x Christine Vachon
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Season 10, Episode 5

Todd Haynes x Christine Vachon

March 4, 2026

Award-winning director Todd Haynes and his longtime collaborator, film producer Christine Vachon, on the emergence of the new queer cinema, the culture wars of the 90s, and three decades of collaboration.

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The Art of Installation with Amy Sillman and Donna De Salvo
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Season 10, Episode 3

The Art of Installation with Amy Sillman and Donna De Salvo

February 18, 2026

Artist Amy Sillman and curator Donna De Salvo join Helen Molesworth for a deep dive into how an art exhibition comes to life.

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How Pee-wee Herman Brought the Avant-Garde to TV with Matt Wolf
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Season 10, Episode 2

How Pee-wee Herman Brought the Avant-Garde to TV with Matt Wolf

February 11, 2026

Emmy Award–winning filmmaker and producer Matt Wolf joins Helen Molesworth to discuss his latest documentary series, Pee-wee as Himself, a revelatory documentary about the late Paul Reubens. The HBO original two-part documentary Pee-wee as Himself is available to stream now on HBO Max.

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The Myth of da Vinci
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Season 10, Episode 1

The Myth of da Vinci

February 4, 2026

Every era has its own version of Leonardo da Vinci, according to art historian Stephen J. Campbell. Campbell joins Helen Molesworth to unpack the 21st-century myth of the tech genius that surrounds the Renaissance artist.

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From the Dialogues Studio

Kerry James Marshall, Modern Master

The artists Arthur Jafa and Steve Locke expound on the work of Kerry James Marshall. Listen to the full episode here.

On Richard Serra with Hal Foster
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On Richard Serra with Hal Foster

November 21, 2024

Art historian and critic Hal Foster joins Helen for a live conversation on Richard Serra (1938–2024) at David Zwirner New York.

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Helen Molesworth and Benjamin H.D. Buchloh on Gerhard Richter
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Helen Molesworth and Benjamin H.D. Buchloh on Gerhard Richter

April 24, 2023

A live conversation held in the exhibition Gerhard Richter at David Zwirner New York.

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Has Contemporary Art Lost Its Edge?
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Has Contemporary Art Lost Its Edge?

December 4, 2024

Helen Molesworth speaks to Dean Kissick, author of The Painted Protest, a polemic piece on the state of contemporary art.

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Criticism for Difficult Times
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Criticism for Difficult Times

November 8, 2023

In dark times, reading criticism can be a ballast.

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Inside ‘The Red Studio’: Ann Temkin with 6 Artists on Matisse
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Inside ‘The Red Studio’: Ann Temkin with 6 Artists on Matisse

October 25, 2022

Six artists—Lisa Yuskavage, Joe Bradley, Carroll Dunham, Rashid Johnson, David Reed, Sarah Sze, and Charline von Heyl—give Ann Temkin, Chief Curator of Painting and Sculpture at the Museum of Modern Art in New York, their insights on Matisse’s Red Studio (1911). Produced by Lisa Yuskavage.

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Jordan Wolfson x Beeple
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Season 5, Episode 1

Jordan Wolfson x Beeple

May 21, 2024

Jordan Wolfson and Mike Winkelmann, better known as the digital artist Beeple, debate the real value of art.

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Artists on Artists

Anni Albers: Her Life, Her Work, Her Words
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Season 9, Episode 1

Anni Albers: Her Life, Her Work, Her Words

March 11, 2025

Rare archival interviews with Albers and insights from artists Kristine Woods and Diedrick Bracken and art historian Julia Bryan-Wilson.

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The Infinite Yayoi Kusama
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Season 9, Episode 10

The Infinite Yayoi Kusama

May 28, 2025

Jennifer DeVere Brody, art critic Johanna Fateman, and curator Catherine Taft unpack the many versions of Yayoi Kusama—and her influence on 20th and 21st century art.

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The Legacy of Ruth Asawa
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The Legacy of Ruth Asawa

September 27, 2023

Artists EJ Hill and Sarah Sze on the life and work of Ruth Asawa, with oral history from the artist herself.

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Joan Mitchell at 100
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Season 9, Episode 7

Joan Mitchell at 100

April 23, 2025

Artist Julie Mehretu and poet Eileen Myles on what Mitchell’s life and work means to them.

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On Diane Arbus with Francine Prose, David Salle, and Neil Selkirk
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Special Episode

On Diane Arbus with Francine Prose, David Salle, and Neil Selkirk

November 19, 2025

Helen is joined by writer Francine Prose, artist David Salle, and photographer Neil Selkirk for a conversation about Arbus’s singular importance.

(Image: Diane Arbus, Female impersonator on bed, N.Y.C. 1961. © The Estate of Diane Arbus)

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Doug Wheeler and Vija Celmins
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Season 3, Episode 1

Doug Wheeler and Vija Celmins

February 25, 2020

Doug Wheeler and Vija Celmins revisit their years in Venice Beach, California in the late 1960s.

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George Clinton and Lauren Halsey
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Season 8, Episode 1

George Clinton and Lauren Halsey

January 17, 2024

Artist Lauren Halsey and George Clinton of Parliament-Funkadelic open up about their friendship.

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Helen Molesworth and Hal Foster in conversation for a Richard Serra Live Podcast Taping, 2024. Photo by Krista Schlueter

Art History Revisited

On Vermeer
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Season 8, Episode 4

On Vermeer

February 6, 2024

Was Vermeer really the artist behind some of his most well-known works?

 

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The Untold Story of Black Mountain College
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Season 9, Episode 2

The Untold Story of Black Mountain College

March 19, 2025

David Silver, an expert on the farm at Black Mountain college, tells the story of how Black Mountain students collaborated in order to survive.

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Manet's 'Olympia' Comes to New York
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Manet's 'Olympia' Comes to New York

November 21, 2023

Artistic rivalry, leisure, and labor politics in Manet/Degas, a historic exhibition pairing two giants of the 19th century at the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

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On Hilma af Klint with Julia Voss and Briony Fer
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Season 8, Episode 8

On Hilma af Klint with Julia Voss and Briony Fer

March 5, 2024

An episode on the art and life of Hilma af Klint featuring art historian Briony Fer and af Klint’s biographer, Julia Voss.

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Dispatch from a Humanities Field in Crisis
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Special Episode

Dispatch from a Humanities Field in Crisis

May 2, 2025

Art historian, critic, and educator Darby English on the importance of discourse, independent thought, and history.

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An Art Historian’s View of How We Got Here
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Season 9, Episode 9

An Art Historian’s View of How We Got Here

May 21, 2025

Art historian and culture critic Jonathan Crary with a diagnosis of culture and society now.

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How Picasso Was Sold to America
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How Picasso Was Sold to America

April 12, 2023

With Hugh Eakin, author of Picasso’s War: How Modern Art Came to America.

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Designers of Our Time

Grace Wales Bonner and Horace Ballard
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Season 8, Episode 11

Grace Wales Bonner and Horace Ballard

April 23, 2024

Acclaimed fashion designer and curator Grace Wales Bonner in conversation with scholar and curator Horace D. Ballard.

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Annabelle Selldorf
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Season 9, Episode 5

Annabelle Selldorf

April 8, 2025

Celebrated architect Annabelle Selldorf on her life and work, from cultural spaces to commercial galleries to major museums.

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Thom Browne and Michael Glover
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Season 2, Episode 7

Thom Browne and Michael Glover

December 12, 2019

Designer Thom Browne with historian Michael Glover on male vanity, gender fluidity, camp, Catholicism, tailoring, and more.

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Jonathan Anderson
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Season 7, Episode 6

Jonathan Anderson

March 1, 2023

Creative Director of Dior and founder of JW Anderson on the divisions between craft and art, creation and appropriation, and high and low culture.

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Storytellers

Julianne Moore
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Season 9, Episode 6

Julianne Moore

April 16, 2025

Academy award-winning actor and writer Julianne Moore goes in depth on her craft, the art of filmmaking, and passion for design.

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Luca Guadagnino and Michaël Borremans
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Season 7, Episode 1

Luca Guadagnino and Michaël Borremans

Academy Award-nominated filmmaker Luca Guadagnino in conversation with Michaël Borremans.

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Rachel Kushner
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Season 5, Episode 3

Rachel Kushner

May 25, 2021

A conversation about life as art with the author of The Flamethrowers.

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Ira Sachs
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Season 8, Episode 3

Ira Sachs

January 31, 2024

The filmmaker discusses the many influences that inform his work.

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Nicholson Baker
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Season 7, Episode 8

Nicholson Baker

March 15, 2023

Writer Nicholson Baker, author of numerous books, including Vox (1992) and The Mezzanine (1988), and was the recipient of the National Book Critics Circle Award in 2001.

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David Levi Strauss and Michael Taussig
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Season 4, Episode 5

David Levi Strauss and Michael Taussig

December 9, 2020

The poet and writer David Levi Strauss, an authority on photography and its effect in society, and the renowned anthropologist Michael Taussig.

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Lucas Zwirner and Marcel Dzama in the podcast studio, 2018. Photo by Alex Casto

About Dialogues: The David Zwirner Podcast

Debuting in 2018, Dialogues brings together guests from all corners of the cultural landscape to think deeply about the changing stakes—and great pleasures—of making art. Together with David Zwirner’s publications, narrative videos, online editorial features, and public programming, it engages the gallery’s global cultural audience.

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