‘Carroll Dunham and Chris Ofili on the Pleasure of Disappearing’ by Chris Ofili
2026
Earlier this summer, Carroll Dunham and Chris Ofili bumped into each other in the foyer of the Whitney and found themselves in a conversation more intimate and generative than either expected. A few weeks later, they decided to pick up right where they left off, and were surprised anew to find there was still plenty left to discuss. For the last three years, Dunham has been imagining an artist who gets so fed up with his surroundings that he leaves Earth altogether. In his Studio on Another Planet series, a white male sculptor takes off for a distant colony populated by purple people, hoping that getting as far away as possible might help him start again. It’s a funny, fantastical premise, though one that’s not entirely removed from Dunham’s real life. After decades in New York, he moved his studio to Connecticut where the silence and solitude slowly began to creep into his work. Now, for the series’ third and final chapter on view at Matthew Brown in New York, Dunham’s warped little planet has become even more distorted. Below, he and Ofili pick up the thread of their conversation, trading stories about coming up in the art worlds of London and New York, the state of their studios, and how far one has to go to feel free.
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