Mamma Andersson and Jockum Nordström

When we recorded this episode in New York earlier this month with the artists Mamma Andersson and Jockum Nordström, who have been together for more than three decades, the situation in this city was very different.

Since then, Andersson’s exhibition at our New York gallery, The Lost Paradise, was cut short due to the escalating spread of COVID-19, and our spaces have closed temporarily worldwide. 

But the story they told then—of two young artists leaning on each other as their family grew; of uncertainty and insecurity, and figuring out how to be different but together; of the pleasure of getting completely lost in one’s work—resonates even more now.

Image: Mamma Andersson, The Lost Paradise III, 2020 (detail)