A photo of R. Crumb and Art Spiegelman in New York, dated 2019.

R. Crumb and Art Spiegelman

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Two icons of the comics world—and old friends—tell their cartoonist origin stories, from the psychedelics-fueled breakthroughs of the 1960s to finding their singular styles and  the generational divide among the comics cognoscenti today. R. Crumb is one of the founding fathers of the alternative comics movement, and Art Spiegelman is equally influential, having authored the Pulitzer Prize-winning graphic novel Maus.  

Image: R. Crumb and Art Spiegelman, New York, 2019

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